Madonna and comedian Sandra Bernhard were best friends in the ’80s and ’90s, before dramatically falling out in 1992.
And now one of Bernhard’s closest friends, designer and TV personality Isaac Mizrahi, has revealed his own version of what he believes is behind the Roseanne star’s feud with the Queen of Pop.
Speaking to the Hot Takes & Deep Dives podcast, Isaac claimed that it was Madonna’s relationship with Sandra’s then-girlfriend Ingrid Casares that tore the pair apart.
Speaking out: Sandra Bernhard’s best friend Ingrid Casares (pictured together) has shared his theory on Sandra’s falling out with former pal Madonna
‘I wasn’t sure what Madonna was up to with Sandra,’ Isaac said while reflecting on meeting Madonna for the first time in the early ’90s.
‘I know that Madonna is pansexual… and I guess I couldn’t tell what was going on between them.
‘I couldn’t tell if they were having an affair or whether Madonna was after Sandra’s girlfriend, who was beautiful, this girl called Ingrid.’
Nightclub owner Ingrid became a minor media staple throughout the ’90s thanks to her circle of celebrity pals, which not only included Madonna and Sandra, but also Donald Trump, Tommy Mottola, and many other A-listers of that era.
Flashback: Madonna and comedian Sandra Bernhard (pictured together) were best friends in the ’80s and the early ’90s, before dramatically falling out in 1992
Ingrid previously claimed that Sandra fell out with Madonna because she wasn’t asked to be in the pop star’s infamous Sex book, but Mizrahi believes that’s not the case.
‘That’s not true,’ he claimed. ‘The truth is Sandra was betrayed because Madonna had an affair with Ingrid.’
He also said that Sandra ‘couldn’t care less’ about Madonna’s X-rated Sex book and had no desire to be in it.
‘None of us really thought much of that book,’ he sniffed. ‘That book was, you know, a little bit forced, a little bit contrived.’
Trouble: Speaking to the Hot Takes & Deep Dives podcast, Isaac claimed that it was Madonna’s relationship with Sandra’s (left) then-girlfriend Ingrid Casares (right) that tore the pair apart
‘The truth was, Madonna and Ingrid had a thing and Ingrid was dating Sandra at the time and that’s what hurt Sandra. Not the book,’ he claimed.
He added: ‘I think that Madonna has a different idea of what it means to have sex with somebody, what it means to be in a relationship with somebody.
‘I don’t think she thought she was doing anything terrible. She was just responding to an erotic…’
Mizrahi also repeated his claims about Madonna and Ingrid’s relationship on an episode of Bravo’s WWHL last week.
His version: ‘The truth was, Madonna and Ingrid had a thing and Ingrid was dating Sandra at the time and that’s what hurt Sandra,’ Isaac claimed (pictured with Sandra in 2016)
Rumours of Sandra and Madonna’s falling out have swirled for years, but the exact cause of their rift has never been confirmed as each party has a different version of events.
Several reports over the years have said that Sandra and Ingrid split prior to Ingrid’s relationship with Madonna, which caused some jealousy on Sandra’s part.
Back in December, Sandra opened up about the demise of her friendship with Madonna during an interview with Hot Takes & Deep Dives.
The 66-year-old star took a thinly-veiled swipe at her former BFF and said she didn’t enjoy the intense fame that came with their friendship.
Unique: ‘I think that Madonna has a different idea of what it means to have sex with somebody, what it means to be in a relationship with somebody,’ Isaac said of Madonna (pictured)
Mystery: Rumours of Sandra and Madonna’s falling out have swirled for years, but the exact cause of their rift has never been confirmed as each party has a different version of events (pictured together in 1991)
‘I didn’t really like that level of visibility and having to work it constantly,’ she explained.
‘We all as performers work it to a certain degree, but I’m a very improvisational person, on stage and in my life, and I don’t like being tied down in having to be a certain way for my image,’ she continued.
‘What I tried to impart in our friendship is, “I’m really your friend, I’m not just somebody that’s passing through.”
‘And I guess for a while we had a real friendship, but it’s hard for somebody like her. She doesn’t really want somebody around who reflects too much of who she is.’
The comedian then added cryptically: ‘Therefore, her relationships just don’t last.’
Her truth: Sandra opened up about the end of her friendship to Madonna in an interview with the Hot Takes and Deep Dives podcast back in December
After the interview made headlines, Ingrid took to Twitter to rubbish Sandra’s version of events, stating that the Sex book was the reason for Sandra’s falling out with Madonna.
‘What a liar!! @SandraBernhard!’ she tweeted on Christmas Eve.
‘She wasn’t asked to be in the Sex book and got pi**ed. (Like the girl who didn’t get picked on the dodgeball team in high school and still holds a resentment). Madonna has had the same friends for over 30years!’
Honest: ‘I guess for a while we had a real friendship, but it’s hard for somebody like her. She doesn’t really want somebody around who reflects too much of who she is,’ Sandra said
Madonna’s estranged brother Christopher Ciccone has previously stated that his sister’s only true friend throughout her life was Ingrid.
‘She was never really a “buddy”,’ he told the Dallas Voice in 2008. ‘Her only real buddy was Ingrid.’
Sandra and Madonna became first friends in the late ’80s, and were even rumoured to be lovers at one point.
They famously appeared on a 1988 episode of Late Night with David Letterman together, which is largely considered one of the most iconic late night TV interviews ever.
Sandra was also featured in Madonna’s 1991 documentary Truth or Dare, but their friendship seemingly imploded shortly after its release.
Better days: Sandra and Madonna became first friends in the late ’80s, and were even rumoured to be lovers at one point (pictured in 1991)